7 Responses to "“I’m Alive and Well”… Or Am I?"
  1. Marina Habib the quote was here 🙂

  2. Fr. Moses- for clarification (and there truly is no agenda here)- what do you mean by the “spirit” of the songs? Is there a place at all for “contemporary” songs, or are only ancient chants/hymns appropriate? Thank you!

  3. Dear Sofia Michael, my humble opinion in response to your question is that there shouldn’t be a place for non-Orthodox contemporary songs in any Orthodox gathering. On the one hand, we have one extreme in the awesome and mystical ancient hymns, which the Church reserves for the crown of Her worship, the Divine Liturgy and other liturgical worship. On the other hand, we have another extreme in the oftentimes Protestant contemporary songs, which Orthodox tend to reserve for meetings and non-liturgical gatherings, etc.

    We’re missing something in the middle. We need more non-liturgical music that is more Orthodox in nature. It’s hard to precisely define what this means, but at the very least, I’m speaking about music that reflects correct Orthodox dogma, music that somehow enriches us to be better Orthodox Christians, music that doesn’t conflict with our Faith and what we do liturgically. Perhaps the music may even be contemporary, but the words themselves won’t reflect Protestant dogma.

    This is very important, because, when you think about it, Chris Tomlin, Hillsong, and other contemporary Protestant songwriters are, I’m sure, very nice people and sincere Christians, but what qualifications do they have for guiding Orthodox Christians in praise? Who ordained them? Were they even baptized in an Apostolic Church? How do they pray? What do they believe? For example, the vast majority of them don’t believe in the holiness of the Holy Virgin Mary or her ever-virginity, which is why she is glaringly absent from their songs. How can we Orthodox, who proclaim her to be “more honored than the Cherubim and more glorious and exalted than the Seraphim,” use songs written by people who openly deny her, not to mention the Church and Her Mysteries (Sacraments)?

    We love these Protestant songwriters and pray for them to come to the fullness of the Truth, but we shouldn’t make them our spiritual guides by singing their songs, because they don’t believe as we believe. A Protestant song can never capture the fullness of our Faith, because its author doesn’t believe as we believe.

  4. Thank you for the response. The prayers of the saints be with you.

  5. Regina Mance says:

    Interesting. Abouna Moses you always present viewpoints I have never considered. Thank you for being Radical for Christ and boldly declaring your convictions. 🙂

  6. Thank you for reading, Fr. Deacon. May God help and grant us wisdom to deal with this issue.

  7. John says:

    Father

    I have certain issues with your post. When I read the lyrics, my only objection was to the word forsaken. I don’t think Orthodox Christians believe that Jesus was forsaken by the father.

    I am really upset that your objection is to the word alive and well. Take Ephesians 2:1. We have been made alive. This does not mean that we are sinless. We have been made alive through the work of the Holy Son who died on the cross, and paid the price of sin in his body. And rose from the dead.

    Being alive is accepting Jesus as lord and saviour. ( in our orthodox terminology) repenting sin and living for Christ. It does not mean sinful living that agreed, but Protestants do not preach sinful living.

    Being alive and well is knowing that I have forgiveness in Christ. So I believe in him and be one with him so that I am forgiven.

    We do not imitate the saints. We love them, we pray with them and they with us, but we only strive to be like Christ, only.

    We do not become alive and well by imitating Christ. Because we will never reach the fullness of his righteousness. But we become alive and well by accepting His grace and in response, we live through the Holy Spirit.

    Lastly, there are certain issues with the teaching of our Coptic Orthodox Church, take for instance that women cannot receive communion during certain periods of their menstual cycle, which is definitely none biblical nor orthodox. there were dark times in the Orthodox Church were teachings were not accurate and wrong.

    I love hymns. But I cannot deny 1 Corinthians chapter 9, where St Paul clearly explains how he jumped through hoops to reach out to people. We on the other hand insist on sticking to a language extinct for at least 10 centuries. And to add to that, we tell people to day that there is no other road to salvation, besides this church.

    If we never admit where we have gone wrong, then we are blindly defending certain stigmas

    With a humble heart full of love I say this, for the glory of Christ and the growth of His kingdom into the hearts of all people.

    John

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